Monavie Leader In India Beaten Up In A Meeting
Not Good for the MLM industry….
Evidently some top leaders in India left one company to join Mona Vie and distributors from the other company weren't too happy so they showed up at a Mona Vie meeting their former leaders were conducting and all hell broke loose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8et5xWRIQa0
According to Indian reporter Ankur Bakhshi:
The video is about Mr. Shamsudeen (Shansudin) a top leader who left Indian based MLM company RMP and joined Monavie. Mr. Shamsudeen started with RMP around 2001.
He was 1 of the top earners in RMP & guided RMP on their operations. With Monavie launching in India, he along with 4 other Top Earners left. The word is that these guys got some false cases registered against RMP by the Indian Govt, which led 2 temporary halt of RMP's working. And also got RMP's website hacked and put up a message aboutt Monavie.
RMP blocked out their IDs and the case by Andhra Pradesh govt came in. Shamsudeen meanwhile went ahead with promoting Monavie in Kerala, where RMP did a huge business and almost every person was in RMP. Some of the RMP distributors came, confronted & bashed up Shamsudin, just before a Monavie plan preview, for the unethical activities he & his team conducted in last few weeks.
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This is crazy even though i don’t understand what they are saying! This happen in network marketing industry since people make it look bad for not being honest and etc.Thanks Ted for sharing this! It’s not good for the network marketing profession!
On a lighter side…there is no lack of passion here…misguided as it may be…but passion non the less!!!! LOLLLL
Is this a first “parliamentary” confrontation between Amway and Monavie???
Its like watching members of Lower House debating in some Asian democracies
Merry Christmas everybody (or Merry Buddha shall I say)
We should not consider that of any significance. We are not perfect. No body is perfect. You can encounter fights and squabbles in families. Inside yourself, sometimes your interns fight. The industry is booming and after a few years it will be the mainstream home business. To our success ALL.
This is Brilliant it’s great to see people whom were enticed into the Industry by the fine words of potentially some well polished leader. Maybe these poor buggers were three way called in we all know the spiel” I will support and help you in any way I can I am here for you”.
When recruiters are treating people like dirt ( Keep turning them over) EVENTUALLY YOU WILL FIND YOUR DIAMOND.
Yes Ted This is one of your classic releases its indicative of many things including the heart and soul many people put into every dollar they earn.When the alure of growing that hard earned into even more money is fabled on false Integrity.Your Video is the only response possible.
I think I recall seeing scenes like that in parliament not long ago. I hope they all paid $5 at the door!
Even though I hate Amways compensation plan, with a 1 in 25 break even ratio it is still a better ratio than Monavies. (I am not in Amway) Monavie has an absolutely horrendous 1 in 31 ratio. That is: For every 1 person making $150 a month on a recurring basis there are 30 who aren?t.
Amway distributors in India would do well to study what has happened to MV in the U.S. as it has literally imploded. Why? Because their binary model is unsustainable. A few people will make some money for a short period of time then the inevitable will happen. All of you folks in India need to study this ?opportunity? and study it well before you go moving your teams over there.
Here are the rank advancements for last week according to monavie:
1 Hawaiian Blue diamond NOT in the U.S. 2 Blue Diamonds NOT in the U.S. 2 Diamonds NOT in the U.S. 5 Emeralds NOT in the U.S. 9 Rubies NOT in the U.S. 59 Golds with ONLY 5 in the U.S. 53 Silvers with ONLY 3 in the U.S. and 109 Bronzes with ONLY 3 in the U.S.
That?s 94.5% of the growth in MV happening outside of the U.S. It was here and now it?s GONE. Don?t think it won?t happen in India. And beware of exorbitant income claims. They are more than likely false. Ask to see that persons Bonus Report/Income History in their back office as this is hard to forge.
Here is the link for the rank advancements: https://monaviemediacenter.com/recognition/rank-advancement What?s interesting is that I put up a post on Troy Dooly?s FB page https://www.facebook.com/#!/troydooly on Fri @ 5:04 Listing these same statistics from the MV on the move website. It appears that they have taken down the latest ranks. The ranks they took down actually had the countries listed under them. It is interesting because MV had stopped listing the respective countries under the ranks probably because people can see that there is virtually no growth in MV in the US. (All one has to do is read the names and you can tell they are not in the US so I don?t know what they are really trying to hide)
All this does is remind one of the new IDS (income disclosure statement) they recently released. The new IDS has an entire column removed without which makes the new IDS impossible to analyze. The data is meaningless without that column. Meaningless unless of course all you want to do is point to the incomes the ranks ?allegedly? make.
Do your homework India!
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Ted,
Probably worth noting here that information given on your FB page indicates the angry distributors were not from Amway as you imply, but from another Indian MLM that has been raided by MonaVie
Probably worth also noting when you significantly change an article! Otherwise many of the comments don’t make much sense …. 🙂
Seriously? WOW! What has the world come to?
People typically go to the place where they feel they are going to get the most support. Either that, or someone was willing to cut them a check that they just couldn’t refuse. lol
They were the people who opposed computerisation in Kerala state a few years back! They oppose every development in Kerala. They cant fight against corruption.
@Darren, don’t act so surprised. The days that MLM was only for the Elite of society is long gone. It was bound to happen sooner or later.
MLM people are a reflection of society. There’s a lot of anger in society, and thus … into our networking marketing businesses as well.
@Michael … It’s not bad, people fight at the stock exchange as well. Definitely not professional and a negative trend worldwide, I agree with that. But it also shows MLMers are humans too (instead of enlightened beings that’s sometimes pretended at meetings). 😉
Well, this has also happened here in Africa and specifically in Congo, Zimbabwe, Angola and even Congo Democratic Republic. This is what happens when leaders carry a large team, pep them, build them, become dishonest to them and then leave them hanging by changing the company without adequate explanations and apologies!
In Congo, you had the classic case where activity done by down lines in a given organization would disappear and be found registered under their upline. This situation would also take place when it comes to new recruits! So, you can imagine if that goes on for a while. The classic for us is when the company does a big convention and then awards a known “con mlmer”, you can be assured that all hell would break loose, so the Indian scenario makes perfect sense for me over here in Africa!
As some of you already said, we have lots of passion about this business and we are not about to let some unscrupulous leaders do otherwise!
🙂
FYI – Monavie India has created waves since it started operations a month back in India with being in News in Times of INDIA see the link of online news – https://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-11-08/kochi/30373833_1_amway-india-distributors-exodus
2nd highlight was given by IBN Live on 17th Nov just 4 days before official soft launch date which shows that Monavie is going to adhere all by laws and gudelines of code of conduct for doing business in INDIA. pls watch yourself by going to News link below
https://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/mona-vie-launching-operations-in-india/904931.html
as many Top Leaders from Various Big compnies joined Monavie Including a couple of Daimonds & Top Most Earners of Amway like Sajeev Nair (Top Earner of Amway India), Mr. SP Bahrill, Dr. M. Samsudeen ( Top Earner Indian MLM RMP), Abhilash Thomas( Top Earner “Youngest Merc & Jet Acheiver” in India from RMP), Mr. Hardeep Singh( No 1 & Founder member Asia/India My Video Talk ) R C Jeyakumar ( Top Leader Tianshi) Actually Too Many top leaders from lots of Indian MLM companies as well as Global companies in India have Joined Monavie.
As last 1 year India has seen too many scandals /Scams and most of the so called wise people from Network Marketing Industry of India also lost Lots of money, hence many political groups also wanting to highlight themselves by showing that they are helping common man against these kind of money circulation companies though they have no Knowledge or very litle knowledge about Network Industry,
specially where this incident has happened Kerla state is one of the top most in MLM and being a strong Communists area this kind of incidents are very common in Kerla with various other Business organisations & other Institutional Organisations also.
Though Whatever happened is a very bad incident and is being condemned by all Network Marketers in India exept the leaders of RMP who beleive that whatever problems came in their company in last one month is because of these two top leaders mentioned above.
Soon Indian Government is comming up with By Laws to govern the NM / MLM, the guidelines have already been drafted and most likely by march it has to be implimented and then we will all see the correct form on our Industy in India Market.
But I Am SURE THAT MONAVIE WILL HAVE ITS 1st Tripple Crown Diamond very soon since india is gonna hit big time with this opportunity.
Losers attitude! UPSSSSSSSSSSSS Never they will catch…
HI MLM FRIENDS
PLEASE UPDATE YOURSELF
MLM IS INDEPENDENT BUSINESS OWNER BUSINESS
IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE INDIVIDUAL WISH TO CONTINUE OR NOT TO CONTINUE ONE COMPANY
WHEN SOMEONE CONTINUING HAPPY , AND NOT CONTINUING HE MAY BE THE LOOSER
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS MAN ? HE HAD DONE BIG SUCCESS IN FORMER COMPANY AND LEFT THE COMPANY AND JOINING NEW COMPANY ? HE MUST BE THE ULTIMATE LOOSER
EVERYONE HAS TO UNDERSTAND ONE THING ? BEFORE HE WAS DOING FORMER COMPANY (RMP ) ? HE MUST HAVE LEFT SOME OTHER X COMPANY AND STARTED THE FORMER COMPANY
WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SITUATION ? IF THE SAME THING COULD HAVE BEEN HAPPENED
IT IS ABSOLUTELY INDIVIDUAL WISH TO RETAIN OR LEAVE.
BY THE WAY
VIOLENCE IS NOT THE SOLUTION FOR ANY KIND OF ISSUES
NOTE :- I AM JUST MLM LOVER ? NOT FAVOUR AND NOT AGAINEST FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL
I’m Monavie.
Hi Ted,
Hats off to you for bringing out this concern to the international arena. India has always been a green pasture for a lot of MLM companies. Though there are a lot of legitimate companies in the country, almost 90% of companies in the industry are taking forward it as a illegal pyramid scheme.
Recently, there was a mass movement against all the MLM companies by the backing of print and visual media in the southern parts of India predominantly in the states of Kerala and Andhra Pradesh. This is the time when a lot of leaders including the top achievers of many companies learned that, even the companies they thought were legitimate was also falling in the ‘Money Chain’ category. The companies found the loop holes in the law and had convinced these leaders in the early phase of their career that whatever they were selling will fall under MLM. Hence, these leaders including Dr. M. Shamsudheen and all the top leaders in his organization gave their blood and sweat in building up the company in the industry since 2001. ( Same is the story with all the MLM top leaders of other companies who are targeted now by these so called ‘social police’ ).
The reason why all these top leaders had moved from the now money chain companies are:
1) When these leaders faced problem from the law, (because, law enforcers declared them as money chain frauds) the companies did not take any appropriate action to protect them, hence proving that, they were fraudulent companies.
2) The products, the company offered were not value for money products, moreover, these products were available in the retail market for 90% lesser price.
3) There was no money back policy for the sales of the products ( which is not in accordance with the retail law of the Govt. of India). And when this was requested by the leaders, the companies rejected it.
And these leaders were much discouraged when they learned that none of these companies were not filing the taxes in the appropriate way. Because of which and for all the above mentioned reasons, the directors of these companies are behind the bars currently.
Hence, Dr. M. Shamsudheen and many other passionate leaders in the industry from many companies took the decision to do the business with a company which will abide all the laws and do true network marketing, not just for themselves but for thousands of leaders and their families who entrusted their life and career on them.
Note: Dear Ted, to be understood that Dr. M. Shamsudheen and Mr. Abhilash Thomas were the forefront leaders who had been trying to rescue the industry from getting a fraudulent image. They were responsible in making sure that a new law will be passed to safeguard the industry.
With Winning Regards,
Adarsh Damodaran.
Great to see things in the MLM market hotting up in India, but violence is not the answer.
Typical top earners jumping ship, wait to Lyoness joins India , see how many will stay with either MV or Amway.
Cannot wait for this great event when Lyoness get approved to start.
Sean
MonaVie is shaking up the world. Wait till January when MonaVie launches MonaVie 2.0!!!
I don’t know much about the background to this story, but a fact is that anyone can get pissed if some SOB try to recruit from their downline to another company. Just think if you have spent days month and years built a business and income just to see someone try to ruin that.
DSA says that distributors in a DSA member company are not allowed to systematically recruit people from another company.
But we all know about the reality. Haven’t we all recruited someone from another company.
Just something to pay attention too…
Claes
They should have made a meeting by calling all diamonds and crown diamonds with co md praveen chandan to discuss forther improvemnt in RMP but they did did thats why people got frusted as because of them many people family run on rmp not on amway and monavie rmp is heartfyll business for people who don’t have any such resource so my friends be brave stand stood we will show this worl thet rmp is asia no one and would be no in world for every growth there is a contaversey so this is the correct time to fight and stand brave be patient rmpians and thanksto praveen chande hats off dear sir we are with you all time .just a small requesy please make many things in rmp online try to make online purchase olnie entry by debit & credit instead of paper work likee dd etc try to make online customer id where one should not make an entry of forms and etc lets make rmp as a white paper lets make rmp an online business we will rock@ Francis 932404025
This is something which should not have happened and the reason for this is real hatred and wrong information given by the previous company that these people shifted by taking loads and loads of money which required all gunny bags from kerala state to carry the money and Monavie company hacked the company s website .I just cant resist laughing loud whenever i hear to these things by all the people who were associated with previous company or any new people in the industry.Its been 7 months Rmp was not able to solve the issue in kerala and was not in a position to solve the issue in AP. Everytime since 2 years they have been several cases launched against distributors but for the first time they could get hold of directors . since company was not ready to take any steps to safeguard the distributors nor improvisation of the infrastructure or never improve their product base(as most of the products production happens on the name of VRLA which is owned by rmp directors family members). They never had a vision to go global so the leaders have taken a decision to shift to a company which can give them a stronger platform not only to them but also for the people who are in the network so that they fulfill their dreams. Life has been miserable in the states of distributors from karnataka , kerala and Ap. I suggest each one of you to understand how can a company or distributor just give crores of rupees just beacuse they are shifting and if u understand the remuneration of Monavie it is impossible.
I am from kerala,and and a witness to these happenings…
This was the incident happened at calicut…Few AITUC members came to the meeting place with plucards and slogans aganist monavie and leaders who left RMP and created a violent situation.Only AITUC(A political workers union in India) is having problems with monavie in india .since its major leaders are frm RMP…all other top workers union parties INTUC,CITU,BMS…are in support with monavie…Those RMP distributors have a lot of time left now to do any anti-social activities in Kerala and southern states,since they can’t do RMP here…because of the recent law made by the kerala govt. to regulate MLM/Direct Seelling.
You may study wat happend after the incident…All those problem makers were arrested and from they very next day onwards, monavie meetings are going on even more better with the support of police and political parties…
I anyboby wants anymore info. regarding this matter,you may call me at 09995363883 or email me..
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Howard Mosse: Unless MV is preparing to change that ridiculous comp plan and start pushing more money to the bottom distributors instead of
enriching a few at the top then MV 2.0 will end up being as big a hit as RVL was…..snore
Monavie strategy is simply buying leaders to generate a huge sales from the bind followers behind these leaders .It is similar to the situation when theif entered into house to steal , First He will convince the home owner dog by simply feeding bone pieces and biscuits to steal all from home
not a good job.very poor mentality most educated state.
(My Open Letter to Monavie after the unfortunate incident)
Dear Monavie,
Greetings from a common man of India!
I am receipt of a memo sent by you on 20th Dec? 2011 regarding MonaVie encourages distributors to maintain Respect, Civility with competitors.
I am extremely pleased to see a sea change compared with the operation of Managements of Network Marketing Companies in India by just seeing your memo.
I am also glad to hear from you that you have experienced amazing growth and success during your first full month operations in India, which is not a surprise either because we in India for Centuries believed in ?athithi devo bhava? and am sure you will find Indians as very warm and friendly people from the length and breadth of India. I can guarantee you that.
You are most welcome to ?Gods Own Country? ?Kerala? and kick start your business in Kerala. I personally do not subscribe to any violent method of protest as was witnessed at Calicut, in one of your opportunity presentation program, the common man had to resort to violence and disrupt a meeting of a Global Company, and I subscribe to your views on the eruption of violence of any kind to get your thoughts across. Rumors and Stories do not have any place in a civilized world and the said violence in no way undermines the reputation of the Company Monavie, and its competitors in India. But, Why, Why did a common dormant Keralite resort to such actions. People of Kerala, Specially, people of Calicut are well educated and sensible in their actions. Then how come a poor Keralite from Calicut, lost his cool and balance just by the sight of Dr. Shamshudheen of RMP who is now your distributor. Why is that at the grass roots the common man unwelcomes your leaders like Dr. Shamshudheen of RMP, Mr. Abhilash Thomas of RMP, Mr. Sreejith Nair of RMP and the Wizard of Amway Mr. Sajeev Nair. Have you done a proper study on the backgrounds of these men of honor before giving them the right to be your distributor. Why leaders from Wayanad and Calicut and Kerala are unable to conduct a small business opportunity presentation in their own Birthplace or Hometown. Why are they afraid to come and face the common man and give the reason for their shifting from Huge foundation of distributors at RMP and Amway. Why is there so much of hatred towards these people by the common man of Kerala. I challenge Mr. Abhilas Thomas and Mr. Sreejith Nair to conduct a BOP of MONAVIE at their own backyard called Wayanad and then call themselves True leaders. I challenge Mr. Sajeev Nair, of Amway the biggest BINARY HATER THE WORLD HAS SEEN to go and convince the people of Kerala whom he has systematically brainwashed for 13 years for his selfish goals and how dare you take about TRANSFORMATION AND GIVE A PUBLIC POSTURE OF CHANGE, you all are OPPORTUNIST WHO HAVE SOLD THEIR SOUL FOR A FEW DOLLARS. ARE YOU NOT ASHAMED OF YOURSELF?there are so many housewife?s, Students, farmers, ordinary people who were sold Dreams (illusions) and placed them under their organization tree for amassing massive wealth. Monavie Come with me I will show you and take you to places were the name of these people are disliked by the common man. Dear Monavie, these people have resorted to short cut to gain wealth from the blood and sweet of people of Kerala, thereby taking them and their families to FINANCIAL MESS promising them financial freedom. They have looted my brothers and sisters of Kerala and now they are at it again, the same old wine in a new bottle have overnight shifted their Loyalties to their teams and organization in the FALSE POSTURE OF ?TRANSFORMATION?. Monavie, once bitten is twice shy; the old adage applies to this situation. What was the real reason for their overnight clandestine shifting from RMP and Amway? Men of Honor ?Walk The Talk? and True Leaders are those whose followers start from his own peer group of people and people who are friends or acquaintances from his/her hometown and should have the freedom to access one?s own house without stress or fear. I challenge all the above said leaders to conduct at least on open launch meeting of MONAVIE in their own hometowns. If they do that successfully without any kind of protection or tension I am ready to SURRENDER, PROSTATE AND SEEK PARDON.
As for obeying the rules and regulations of a Country, you are bound to follow it and no surprises there.
Regarding violation of your terms and conditions which may lead to termination, then you should throw these parasites of Indian Network Marketing Industry and Come Clean for people suspect that your hands are dirty; you have paid Crores to acquire these leaders and their sidekicks from competitor companies.
I caution you that Monavie is not in safe hands in India and your reputation is taking a big beating by acquiring these parasites. Non of the Quality professionals will associate with Monavie for Monavie is stinking of Bad Reputation of these leaders.
I am not interested to playing any kind of politics here. Whatever you want do to do on public platform and let the common Indian decide for himself.
I in fact would like to use your platform and teach the poor Indians what is Network Marketing all about, I will take time in ensuring that each and every associate who joins with me is EMPOWERED for that is my biggest responsibility as a leader and not counting money and driving in a beautiful beast and show false postures in coats and suits as if they are from some other planet.
I am willing to take up Monavie opportunity provided theses people who have looted my people are shown the exit door. Like me there are Millions of Indians who would not like to associate their name with an Organization which gives rights to these parasites to do business in India and the Globe. Hence, there was a show of hatred and dislike which turned out to be violent.
I request the Management of Monavie to be totally transparent in their business of acquiring these leaders. You can organize press meet and re-launch your company in India stating your position with conviction that these so called parasites were not bribed to break their team in their respective companies and ?Cut-Copy-Paste? formula for beating the competition unethically to sustain and maintain your growth in Direct Marketing Industry.
With this few words I am sure you get the real reflection of Indian Common man regarding these people and their sidekicks and you will surely do a rethinking of a re-launch in India, for we Indians always believe in ?athithi devo bhava? and you are more than welcome to ?Gods Own Country? Kerala and kick-start your business in the most pleasant and peaceful manner.
Warm Regards
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monavie is a great company in the world
There is really very difficult to move from one company to another while you worked with many other leaders, but these business are promoted as inidividual business owner, He can take the decision to contiuen with the same company not not. Some one take a decision only when he got something better opportunity than the existing one.
I heard very positive things on Monavie products and compensation plan and started just 6-7 months back, I think there is very good opportunity to build this business. so without giving second though I joined this company just in last week.
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