Top Earner Robert Dean Terminated by Limu Company?

Robert Dean


Robert Dean seems to be terminated by the Limu Company. Robert Dean has been with his Top Gun Team in Tahitian Noni, Monavie, Evolv Health, ViSalus and the Limu Company. He is famous for his Deals.

Update 25 January 2012:

Troy Dooly, MLM helpdesk:

I reached out to Gary Raser the founder of TLC, and he confirmed Robert Dean Jr. and T.O.P.G.U.N. had not been terminated, but Robert Dean Jr. and about 30 other T.O.P.G.U.N. members had been suspended as per the Limu P&Ps, as the investigation continues on the rumors that Robert Dean Jr. and T.O.P.G.U.N. has joined Momentis Energy, the marketing arm of Just Energy out of Canada

When Dean left with a big bang Visalus Robert stated as follows….:

To whom it may concern: 

It continues to come to my attention that my personal business integrity is being questioned, not only by one of the founders of Visalus, a company I recently left, but also by people who are spreading false information.

Some of the snide remarks and incorrect assumptions I have seen deserve a very clear response, and so I feel it is important for me to personally address these issues in a very public way right now.  

I am particularly concerned that a confidential agreement that was prepared by Nick Sarnicola has now been made public by him in an attempt to cast negative light on my business decision. My concern has nothing to do with the actual information in the agreement, but with the fact that it was made public by the very man that required it to remain confidential. In my mind, it is totally unethical for that agreement to have been made public, since it has no relevance to my leaving Visalus. I fulfilled every objective required in that agreement and am proud to have done so. 

Anyone that knows Robert Dean Jr. understands that I am direct and professional in all my business dealings, so I am not about to make any derogatory or malicious statements … I will hold to the facts. And that includes the fact that I had absolutely no intention of making a move, until I was invited to take a closer look at The LIMU Company.    Let me start by telling you what I saw as I evaluated Visalus versus the LIMU opportunity, and as I dealt with several major issues that concerned me greatly:  
When I compared the management team at Visalus to executives I have worked with in the past, within our Network Marketing industry, I found them to have much less successful corporate experience than most. The truth is that there is a lack of seasoning and maturity in both the founders and the management team. That is just a plain fact. 
This industry is difficult and more so in these tough economic times. Only the profitable companies will survive, because only they will have the ability to ship product and make commission payments as distributors expect. That’s why when I looked closer at Visalus, the continuous lack of profitability got me real nervous. The numbers showed me that Visalus had actually been losing money every quarter for the past five years, and I was just not at all comfortable that the 5-year trend was going to be reversed.
Because of those two factors … inexperience and a lack of profitability … to me their viability over time seemed at risk. The situation did not appear very stable in the short-term or long-term, and frankly I have no interest in being stuck between a rock and a hard place. 
In looking at the Visalus product line, the focus is solely in weight loss, but there was nothing proprietary or unique about their product. The product works but focusing the company only on weight loss felt too limited. There are a lot of different ways to lose weight and their system didn’t seem any better than one of many you can find in a supermarket. There was nothing proprietary about what it was they were doing, nothing that would catch someone’s eye or interest. 
Bottom line, I had legitimate concerns about the future course of Visalus, and therefore the future opportunity for the people in my downline. It obviously made sense for me to take advantage of the more stable and consistently profitable opportunity I saw in LIMU. That is a business decision I made.   Now, in addition to that, I want to make sure people understand the main reasons I joined the company I did, The LIMU Company.  
Yes, the timing is unfortunate, but I simply cannot turn my back on what I believe to be the greatest opportunity I’ve seen in several years’ time. The company is strong, the products target three different markets and LIMU is relatively unknown, even after 6+ years of success. That alone showed me there was huge potential for me and my team.
Gary Raser, LIMU’s founder, also played a huge part in my decision. His 25 years in the industry got my attention, and he started as a distributor like me so he knows the industry from the bottom up. His successful experience in the field and on the corporate side impressed me more than anything. 
Gary has built a corporate team that includes people that have industry success all their own. They have worked at the really huge companies in our industry, companies that have exploded. They came to LIMU because the company has been successful, profitable and debt-free since its first day. That is one powerful corporate team, and with a distributor first mentality. 
I absolutely love the LIMU story.  It’s unique and there’s a long history there. That’s different from most of the companies in the industry. LIMU has a line of products that all contain a proprietary seaweed extract, something I had never heard of before. Nobody out there is doing what they are doing. And there is real science behind their key ingredient Fucoidan, over 850 third-party, unsolicited, independent studies. I had never seen that kind of real scientific support. It’s impressive.
Most importantly, LIMU has an Equity Compensation Plan that lets anyone earn equity in The LIMU Company based on extraordinary performance. And anyone means anyone, not just me. I have never heard of a performance-based equity compensation plan available to anyone that earns it. That was a closer for me and my team.  Let me be clear. This was 100% a business decision, it wasn’t personal about me.

I looked at the future, not just for me but for the people that work with me. I knew the timing wasn’t good, but I knew I was making the right choice that would most positively affect many, many people in the long run. I saw a brighter future with LIMU than I did with Visalus, because they had the missing pieces of the puzzle that any of us want.  I hope this helps clear things up and stops the wrong information that is being talked about. I joined Visalus and signed that confidential agreement, and I know, and they know, I honored it. I fulfilled every obligation that I agreed to, I met every goal set for me and my team. It’s unfortunate that those who created the agreement did not feel they needed to keep that same promise of confidentiality.  I am on to bigger things with LIMU. 

Robert Dean Jr

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Comments (25)

  1. I am not really sure what to make out of all of this. It seems to me that a distributor should have rights. You would be foolish to put all of your eggs in one basket which is why I promote affiliate products in addition to my opportunity. I do not think it is right for a company to be able to easily cut ties with someone who has worked hard to help it grow. That to me is just as unethical if not more so than what the company is accusing Mr. Dean of. I think I would take it to court personally. Funny how confidentiality kind of flies out the window when it is convenient. A confidential agreement by the way is meant to protect both parties.

  2. Am I the only person who thinks this guy seems like a creep, jumping from company to company? He obviously has no idea about creating residual value and confuse the hell out of his people claiming 'this is the best company' then 'wo oh, no this is the new best company?' 
    All because he probably gets a big joining payment! 
    I'm not in Visalus [its not in my part of the world and i would not join anyway as i am happy in my company] YET….given the boom in that company… he got that move wrong!
    PS… Limu is based on Tongan health products. Ha! The Tongan race of people are the MOST unhealthy in the world with world leading diabetes from poor diet and obesity! The only time 'tongan' and 'health' are in same sentence is when you say 'the tongans know nothing about health!' classic….

  3. How can anybody believe what this guy says?  All he cares about is the money, and jumps from program to program hoping for a huge signing bonus.  When the companies realize they got screwed, he jumps to the "next best thing".
    He's soon got to wear out his welcome, and companies will get wise to this jerk.  He should be the first person to get an industry-wide ban from joining any company … ever!  He leaves too many "dead MLM corpses" in his wake.

  4. How does the saying go? Fool me one once, shame on you! Fool me 1,2,3,4,5 times?!!  Shame on anyone who connects with him… RD is looking out for RD. end of story..

  5. What a joke. He has been in 5 companies in 3 years. How does he expect his team to grow when he jumps from company to company. He is a not helping anyone but himself. He made enough money at his teams expense. Time to retire Robert.

  6. Like the commercial says, "this is my surprised face" :0  This is not about making a business decision or having an affiliate program in "addition to" to compensate your business. This is about a Snatch and Grab approach to the business.  Lucky for me never part of Roberts "TEAM" (Together Extracting Agreed Monies) or companies he has been in. Our industry needs less Roberts. Reminds me of the old joke that ends with "now that we know what you are we only need establish the price". 

  7. Wow… again?  Pretty sad I remember when I first saw him.  Was really impressive guy on his rise.  
    This comments about ViSalus are pretty comical after last years growth.  Always nice to be able to say TOLDUSO!
    Find a great company and stick with it people!  That is what I did and it has paid off.

  8. It's funny how everyone has an opinion and negative remark about this young man. We've all tried something else before we found what works. We may not have had the same practices or beliefs as he's had but need to still remember where we've all come from. If Someone looked at all of our pass mistakes and everyone decided to give up on us ever changing, we'd all be unemployed,without businesses and lonely. But we've been allowed to do something AGAIN,to correct our mistakes and bad decision and wrong choices. He should be able to clear his name by getting into a business, practicing and using the policy and procedures and redeeming the reputation he once had as honest. He owes that to himself and his family. I hope he gets his act together so that he can be a blessing to someone that deserves him and that company that he deserves. I hope everyones journey in whatever it is your doing is a prosperous and meaningful help to others. 

  9. He was a 100K at limu I think but does not appear anymore on the limu company website. Wonder what are the reasons, but wonder how the limu managers accepted him at their company based on his jumper reputation…!!!

    1. Yeah, it's true.  I was on his T.O.P.G.U.N. team with LIMU.  He is no longer doing the Sunday – Wednesday promotion calls @ 10:30.  He now does Momentis…..

  10. The most courius thing about this is that is is going to another company and he will get to the top in 3 months !! How can people still believe in this guy  ??? I would never ever join under this guy in anything !!

    1. he has made over 6 figures several times. its amazing how most who are lashing out against the guy have never made any real money yet you are getting on him for moving around. how many JOBS has the avg person had ? Thats what I thought alot in your lifetimes..Well in network marketing so many of these companies tell you or promise you this and that and the avg networker doesnt have enough skin in the game to recognize those indicators. Well he does and quite frankly the guy is smart if he can move around and has that much of a following. Alot of his people make money too that ARE WITH HIM..Dont know him personally but I have been around for about 10 yrs and followed him and actually have investigated some of the companies themselves. Im with Momentis now and I can see why he made the jump. Energy woll be the next big BANG..PERIOD..Residually it will be a GREAT thing..The company also went public last week on the NYSE so the creditbility is there and there operational and marketing teams are superb. Will he leave another one ? Who knows….lol

  11.  its just MLM junkie.. bad for mlm reputation, its a joke if anyone ever want to follow someone like Dean, 5 companies in 2-3 years, its a joke, what about all the people who bringing in their friends and families, their reputation goes down because they believe someone like Dean. Its not even about him, but those people. Yes people can change the company, for many reasons. But if you call yourself an expert and top mlm million $ earner, you should choose wisely ( again 5 co=5 "homes" in 3 years..???give me a break). another thing is, All those companies, are HEALTH, Fitness, weight-management companies.. for that sense Dean is the worst possible example of the "product" of the product..haha 

  12. I had also checked the Llimu website yesterday prior to finding out he was terminated. And noticed his picture wasn't on there anymore as one of the top leaders. He actually made it to 200k. He had two other Top Gun team members who made it to 50k and 100k and they're pictures were not on there anymore as well. That's when i figured something wasn't right. So i googled it of course.
    He has now joined Momentis (Just Energy) mlm company. I actually was on a live Top Gun conference call he held last night. That's how I know for sure he is no longer with Limu and joined Momentis. I'm guessing the Top Gun team is with him as well. I'm just curious to know what the hell happened with Limu. He just joined around March 2011. I thought he had a five year commitment with them as he said in one of his videos. Anyways….i personally don't care…just being nosy, lol.

  13. Credibility is like gold in network marketing. The best way to destroy credibility is to continuously switch companies, no matter what the reason for the switch. I watched the company I am with now for nearly one year(they are two years old now), before I joined in order to make sure they were headed in the right direction. Joining the right company is critical,  DO YOUR RESEARCH first, know who you are in business with, leaders who know this industry should know what to look for in finding the right company. I have switched twice in my career, became wiser because of it, and am now grateful to have a place to call home,  credibility in tact. I feel for him, perhaps he is trying to do the right thing, but networking is a fickle industry, it is very hard to repair a damaged reputation.

  14. If someone had 6 jobs in 3 yrs. and you were hiring and about to pour money into HR for him would that be a good move? Next if you told your friends and family to take their hard earn money to join and less than a yr he jump out after he said he would help them how would you feel?

  15. Ted, your title should read with a "?"…as in "King of Deals?"
    In the Limu video posted on Mr. Dooly's website Mr Dean seems different than he did in the 2008/2009 videos when he made the move from Noni to Monavie.
    The look in his eyes, his facial features, speech and weight loss indicate the distinct possibility that Mr. Dean has developed an addiction to a certain white substance & possibly it’s hardened counterpart…and as such he may not be well.
    His actions as described by Mr. Dooly certainly fall in line with those of the classic “Addict’s Personality” in which the addiction always comes first, taking precedent over friends, family, business associates and relationships…always reinforced by bold, blatant and obvious, repetitive lies.
    Money disappears rapidly and the there always exists the need for more without the ability to actually do the work, as the person is hindered by the intoxicated state, which renders them unproductive.
    In Mr. Dean’s case this may explain the need for upfront money in the deals being cut, not distributing it to his people and then blatantly lieing about having received the money…followed by not complying with the performance requirements, only to move on to the next deal with an upfront money requirement.
    Mr. Dooly’s confusion as to the complete change in Mr. Robert Dean Jr.’s personality is understandable as that is not a common occurrence, very unusual…the explanation may be that it is not Mr. Dean acting but a narcotic, which is a common occurrence.
    I may be wrong but there exists the distinct possibility that Robert is in need of help due to an addiction.

  16. I have heard about the issue the company was facing a few years ago but they have regrouped and launched some really great products in my opinion. Thanks for the perspective you gave on Limu products and limu company as a whole

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