ZeekRewards Closing Down – The MLM Attorney Speaks Out!

by Kevin Thompson on August 17, 2012

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Kevin Thompson – The MLM attorney speaks out about the Zeekrewards situation

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Disclaimer: This article contains my opinions. I’m not stating with certainty that Zeek is fraudulent; however, in my opinion, I believe that to be the case.  I think the investigation is timely and will serve a valuable function.    

It’s official.  Zeek Rewards has recently closed its doors.  Literally.  In fact, the SEC and U.S. Secret Service are now involved. This is what we know: the doors are locked and the website is down.  It’s not looking good.  Was this done voluntarily?  Were they required to do this by the SEC?  This all has occurred recently after the North Carolina AG’s office expressed “concern” over the Zeek model.

I’ve got mixed emotions.

I’m both angry and relieved.

Why am I angry?

  I really think we lost our minds with this model. The MLM community took the bait and walked off a cliff like a herd of lemmings. Do you want to know what happened?  I’m going to be candid:

Zeek exploited the gray.  They took a bath in it.  They skinned it and made a coat out of it.  They hired the right people and adopted the right lexicon.  And who is going to pay the price?  The entire industry.  This is bigger than just the participants.  There’s an ocean of gray separating legitimate network marketing companies from pyramid schemes.  Instead of shrinking the gray, we fight like hell to obfuscate.  As an industry, we’re self-delusional.  It’s true.  We think it’s better to have vague standards.  But now we’re seeing first hand what happens when the inmates take over the asylum.

“Those are not investments, those are ‘samples’ given to ‘customers’ in an effort to entice them into buying more….it’s like Amway distributors giving samples of soap to customers.”

It’s not the same thing! Amway distributors are not spending $50,000 on soap, giving it all away to strangers while dramatically increasing their earning potential. Amway distributors have a direct, real connection with customers.  With Zeek, it’s just a combination of 1s and 0s on a computer screen.  Who in the hell were these customers?  Where were they coming from?  Were they real?  Were they ever asked to verify their accounts? Nobody knew and nobody seemed to care.  People knew the angle.  They read from the script, mastered the narrative and explained with eloquence why Zeek was “just like Amway, but with penny auctions.”  Zeek affiliates were essentially rewarded IMMEDIATELY after they bought the bids, regardless if they were ever used. This is not consistent with traditional MLMs.

I’m angry because they leveraged your credibility. They leveraged the credibility of my colleagues and competitors. They leveraged mine.  And we all look like idiots.

I’m angry because this recent news is going to be devastating for tens of thousands of people.  People that will likely associate this horrible experience with “network marketing.”  These were the people that cashed in on their 401(k)s because they were promised tremendous gains in a short amount of time.  These were the people that “invested” more money than they could afford to lose, hoping that maybe, for once in their life, they could get a decent ROI. If the money ends up being locked away in receivership, which is a possibility, it’s not coming out without a court order. Will everyone get their money out? I’m not sure.

I’m angry because this actually impacted my relationships with clients, current and former.  When I gave my candid advice, I was sometimes met with hostility.  I was considered “out of touch.”  I was told that Zeek was “spending countless dollars to be compliant” and I was just envious to be on the outside.

I’m angry because we allowed the cancer to infiltrate the host and spread.  We opened the door and welcomed it with open arms.  Zeek leadership took on top positions with trade associations, recruited top distributors from reputable companies and networked intelligently with industry influencers.  Have cash?  We’ll dance. We provided them with the semblance of legitimacy, and they ran with it. We empowered them.

Why am I relieved?

I’m relieved because the conversation is finally over.  I’ve been fielding calls at least twice a week with somebody else looking to launch their version of Zeek.  It’s hard to tell someone “no” when there’s someone across the street making a fortune with the exact same model.  Finally, it’s over.  We can resume normal business.

I’m relieved because this should mark the end for companies having to defend themselves from Zeek. Zeek was soaking up a lot of leaders from a lot of different companies, causing a considerable disruption in the space. Companies, trying to hold onto their people, found themselves in the cross hairs between zealous distributors looking for a quick buck and industry pundits, all defending the Zeek model. It put company executives in an awkward spot.

What did we learn?

Money Clouds Judgment

When people have a serious economic position with something, they’ll fight hard to protect it. They’ll go to great lengths to find a mental justification, even if it defies all logic and intuition.  There were a lot of distributors in Zeek that really should have known better.  They were around for the FutureNet, SkyBiz and Equinox cases. They knew better. And despite that experience, they really believed they were in the clear on this one.  I think their belief was genuine. They were just under a spell.  Once they got a taste of the enormous commissions, they were hooked and went to great lengths to defend the business.  Adults under the influence of serious cash are like teenage boys with girls…all logic goes out the door.

Watch Out For Name Dropping

People relied heavily on the credibility of Zeek’s lawyers: Gerald Nehra and Kevin Grimes.  They said “These are guys are good; therefore, we’re good.”  I can speak on this first hand: hiring an attorney by itself does not legitimize a program.  At the end of the day, we MLM attorneys explain the boundaries for our clients and provide advice.  It’s on them to follow the advice and stay within the lines. I can guarantee you of one thing with 110% certainty, Zeek is not surprised by recent events. Grimes and Nehra are both good attorneys and good competitors. I’m confident Zeek was fully informed of these potential issues. MLM attorneys can lead horses to water…we can never make them drink.

Commissions Must Be EARNED

If someone promises you easy, run fast!.  We can do better.  Any measure of success in life requires hard work. Really, really hard work.  In the network marketing industry, we need to stand for meritocracy: as you perform, so shall you bonus.  We work hard to ensure the pay plans are fair and that reps are rewarded commensurate with the work they do.  With Zeek, the general tone was that people could make money with minimal effort. There was very little effort involved in reaping the rewards from the penny auction platform (with the exception of buying some customers and placing ads online). I understand that measures were taken to strengthen the program i.e. the compliance course, eliminating the customer co-op, etc; however, rewards were still allocated immediately upon purchases, regardless if the bids were ever used. This was a problem. There must always be a direct connection between the rewards received and work performed.

With modern technology, there seems to be more “make money while sitting on your rear-end.” And as typical Americans, we’re drawn to it! As network marketers, we need to promise VALUE instead of promising EASE.

If It Looks Like a Duck….

Richard Brooke recently said, “If it quacks like a duck, it may not be technically a duck but duck hunters WILL KILL IT!”  Zeek just looked too much like a security. I understand that there are countervailing arguments, but the bottom line is simple: Zeek fought hard to train people to NOT call it an investment opportunity because that’s exactly what it looked like.  People, when they were pitching the program as an investment opportunity, were just following their instincts.  Why?  Because it looked like a duck….

Conclusion

There are a number of issues that will likely come to light during this investigation.  Is it a Ponzi scheme?  Is it a pyramid?  Is it an unregistered security?  Is it all of the above?  Will criminal charges follow?  Who knows…

As an industry, I think it’s time to tighten up the skates.  This should serve as a wake up call. This is embarrassing.  Absolutely embarrassing.  Zeek flew under the banner of protection provided by US, the network marketing community.  They danced in the gray and profited. We need to stop drinking our own kool-aide and shrink the gray. When I first started practicing, I wrote an ebook that has been “read” (according to scribd.com) over 12,000 times). It’s titled, Pyramid Schemes: Saving the network marketing industry by defining the gray. I propose some ideas on ways to make the space better. I think it’s time. Otherwise, this WILL happen again. And at the pace of technology, it will happen soon.

As for my representation of Bidify, which I’m sure will be an issue, they’re paying attention to this situation. Since retaining me, they’ve made a number of difficult decisions. I’m not going to comment further on their business other than to say they’re working hard to stay within the lines. Their recent decision to reduce the max cost to 5,000 euros forever is proof of it. If you want to park a lot of cash, Bidify is not the spot for you.

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Prior to starting his law practice, Kevin gained valuable experience while serving as Chief Counsel for Signature Management Team. Team is one of the largest providers of sales aids for marketers in the direct sales industry.

While at Team, Kevin worked closely with Amway and MonaVie’s compliance departments to ensure all marketing materials passed regulatory review. He has the experience, knowledge, connections and tools necessary to help entrepreneurs launch their businesses on solid legal footing.

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Nick Ames August 17, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Excellent post Kevin, we all look forward to a cleaner industry image. Thanks for your guidance :)

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Keith August 17, 2012 at 10:33 pm
When will people learn "when you get something for nothing"", what do you get? Answer NOTHING!!!! this type of operation damages the Indusrty of Direct Sales/ MLM. The sad fact is that a lot of people get into our Industry and expect to build big cheques without working, It's called NETWORK marketing, but the g"reedy & the needy are always looking for a quick fix and now you can see the result. I am sorry for all the peoople who have lost their money, but I will give some good advise " if looks too good to be true, then it usually is. Do yourselves and you families a favour, do your due dilligence pick a good Company then work your B.....lls off.Z3FV

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David Grant August 17, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Didn't Zeek just win the best MLM company contest that was run by this website?

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Rud Alessandros sssssssss August 17, 2012 at 10:38 pm
Ted Nuyten · Top Commenter · Works at Ted Nuyten - Business For Home.org · 848 subscribers Thanks TED for your great BIZMAN! Thanks for the fast information! Thahks KEVIN!

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Tamara Brown August 17, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Thanks for speaking up onthis matter. It's companies like this and persons so eager to not put in time and effort that makes this Industry look bad. We must all come together no matter the company to ensure these shady companies don't have an audience!

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Huacar J.Lopez August 17, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Very well written, Thanks a lot for this articule.

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Virginia Mote August 17, 2012 at 10:48 pm
Thanks Kevin, it is hard to believe but we all need as much light as possible not to be involved in such cases

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Bob Sherk August 17, 2012 at 10:48 pm
I think this temporary and the business world will be looking at this as a new way to do business. This will pass and life will go on. Bob Sherk

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Gary Puckett August 17, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Yes David Grant - Just goes to show you, votes don't make a company #1 of anything, just shows distributors have time on their hands or have a great computer vote program. Early in my career, I rode to the bottom with a company that I hoped would survive, as a Leader I wanted it to survive for my team, but that did not happen for any of us. Another company, I chose to leave after 17 years (still living) has never been the same once the legal issue (right or wrong) came about. I never felt this one was one for me and I'm sorry for those that it will effect...but at the end of the day...JUST MOVE ON - TOMORROW IS A NEW DAY! I love this industry and couldn't see myself doing anything thing else. Living the Vi-Life and having fun!

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David Grant August 18, 2012 at 12:46 am
I was in a company as well that had a legal issue (right or wrong) that it couldn't overcome. I moved on as well and am enjoying the Vi-life. I love the industry as well. I think every industry has good and bad in it. Not all restaurants are created equal either, some I'll never go back to and some I'd recommend in a heartbeat. But I wouldn't condemn all restaurants based on a bad experience.

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Conrad Padilla August 17, 2012 at 10:53 pm
This should be the start of not allowing anyone to come up with a company that uses the mlm business model. Unless they are truly a valid business . As someone who was in the financial markets for over a decade , expect government regulators to be more involved in mlm.

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stayhonest August 17, 2012 at 10:54 pm
As an Attorney who i would like to respect as much as Gerald Nehra and Kevin Grimes, Kevin Thompson is entitled to his "non-legitimising" opinion about Zeek and "legitimising" one about Bidify. That's the finer print. Zeek proved to be much too much of a competitor for lesser apirants and the desperation has somehow made a headway. It's another matter as to how Zeek will emerge from the smoke and soot emitted by its non-starter unequals in the industry , but the fact remains that it has brought about at least temporary relief to professionals like Kevin that their clients will now see some much-needed spurt in that drooping curve.

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Bob Smith August 17, 2012 at 10:57 pm
Just like a Attorney ! Makerketing himself. Don't forget his pitching Bidafy

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gary August 17, 2012 at 11:59 pm
So what do we Zeek affiliates do now? Join its sister Bidify or will that go under investigation too.

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Kevin Thompson August 18, 2012 at 1:53 am
I'm not pitching Bidify, Bob. Stick to the facts contained in the article. Also, check out the SEC's complaint. I'm reporting on a very newsworthy event. We have not seen any regulatory activity in the industry in almost seven years. And we've never seen damages this size before. Ever. I'm not endorsing anything.

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Alberto Alexander August 17, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Kevin your information and insight are greatly appreciated. I enjoyed your commentary. Our economical state has caused many to act in haste and thus cloud the judgment of many. I thank you for keeping us out of the gray area, Alberto

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D. H. De Vore August 17, 2012 at 11:11 pm
This is percisely what happened to Gold Unlimited in the mid 1990's. It was a runaway success and was a magnet for all levels of distributors and the compeition began flooding the AG's with complaints to cause 'concern' for investigation. It worked! The husband/wife owners couldn't manage the business and thus their distributors began to do likewise. They were raided by the postal inspectors, taken to trial and found guilty. One of the big 4 accounting firms was a witness for the defese and began to state under oath that the business was legitimiite, they were making a profit but the owners refused a recommendation of change of venue to a larger demographic. As a result, the jury could not understand the explanation by the accounting firm and thought that it must be criminal since they could not understand how anyone or entity could make those amounts of revenues in such a short period of time. There is nothing quite like a jealous competitor, especially in a fringe area such as the network industry. If one succeeds above the scale of the normal entity, they surely should have their guns loaded.

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Jon Wright August 17, 2012 at 11:17 pm
As for your comment, "As for my representation of Bidify, which I’m sure will be an issue" I concur. It is an issue. A huge issue. In fact it clouds all you said to varying degrees. Bidify is just a copy cat of Zeek in another country so I do not know how their the US laws apply, but there has to be a difference. A company run by an ex Vacuum cleaner salesman who rose to the top of that company is not, IMO, saying much for the company. Having sold Vaccum Cleaners, Fuller Brusy, and signs to businesses I am aware of the type. Besides which putting another company down when representing another with an article such as you have written borders on Sleazy. With your standing in this industry I would have thought better of you. Your opinion in a private conversation is one thing, but put on the internet is something else. For all of you sucking up thinking this is a great article, well you are wrong. Whether Zeek is right or wrong, this article is wrong. I personally hope Zeek comes through with flying colors. even if they make adjustments.

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Marius Dumitru August 17, 2012 at 11:22 pm
barking dogs, bear move. when you're on top, more suffering, then pass them. Now business is the internet, went back when gave 100 phone to have 10 guests at a marketing plan. the future belongs zeekrewards, even if it hurts many.

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LouiseDunning August 17, 2012 at 11:30 pm
Hey all of you out there their is no guarantees , in life , with what ever we do , two things are for taxes and death , so as i see it GOD will decide what he will do , so live today enjoy what you are doing believe in yourself , live life and trust in the lord and never forget what you are here to do Love your Family

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T.Gray August 17, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Kevin's representation of Bidify notwithstanding, his points are valid and appreciated. It's time for everyone in our industry to grow up and stop chasing easy money and something for nothing. There is no Success without putting in the Work. Let's all teach and promote that. (By the way, Bidify, Kevin? Really?!)

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John Voice August 17, 2012 at 11:54 pm
I was shown Zeek by a former collegue about three weeks ago. After listening to my friend I said H I know that you are new to this venture but if I were in law enforcement you would already be under arrest the way you just explained the program to me. I thought she was just confused that she was just too new and didn't understand nthe program Well I guess she had a lot to be confused about. Someone tsold her a bill of goods as did and this wwas happening all up and dpwn the line. I'm glad I found a great company, Market America|Shop.com where I can build slowly and steadily for a great residual income with great products and services John Voice

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Marcial Cordero August 18, 2012 at 12:25 am
I believe that Kevin have very good input in the profound knowledge of Network marketing. In this particular case, I trust the experience of the best attorneys involved in this case. Zeek took action to adjust the thin line of what look like "security", Pyramid Scheme or unregistered security before it was too late. As distributor of any legit MLM, I can buy products and have thirty days to move 70 percent of this inventory. I really like us the public to be open for the opportunity the Internet bring. This is a new era, I don't have to see a customer to sale him something. People buy every day in the internet what ever they want and profits are distributed. Thank you very much Mr. Kevin Thompson for your explanation in this issue. You're very good.. Bidify should be proud of you.

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Francisco Lameiro August 18, 2012 at 12:41 am
Another lesson to learn, even those who have no direct connection with the ZeekRewards (my case). Work continues always building a better day than the other. Have a great weekend friends entrepreneurs. The honest opinion of Kevin Thompson... Thanks Kevin!

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Rick Martinez August 18, 2012 at 12:52 am
Let's wait for the fat lady to sing. When the final verdict is in, then we all can go on and be the experts we believe we are and express our opinions... including the transparent and unbiased lawyer representing "the other Penny auction MLM company".

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scott August 18, 2012 at 1:04 am
From upline close to admin... Good morning, All. I know many of you have tried contacting me with concerns about our websites being down; and/or, the negative "noise" you're reading on the Internet. Sorry I didn't get back to you last evening; but I spent most of the evening (and, early morning) gathering info so I could respond accordingly. Here's what I know... The NC Attorney General has initiated a Civil Investigative Demand (CID) with Zeek. The reason? They have received 8 complaints & 7 of those complaints were from folks asking if Zeek is a "good investment?" As we have all been told, this is not an investment and CANNOT be presented as such. That said, these inquiries have prompted the NC atty general to initiate the CID. Oh yeah, the 8th complaint was from a mother who's daughter is killing it & the mother wanted to find out more about the daughter's new source of income...LOL. Understand that it is the attorney general's job to protect the consumers in their respective states; and, they are simply trying to learn more about Zeek's business model since, as their spokeswoman stated, "to date, we have no knowledge of Zeekler's operations or business model. What is a Civil Investigative Demand... A CID is the lowest form of investigation by an attorney general's office. It is basically just information gathering so that the AG can look at business practices, websites, marketing material, etc. to determine if a company is following good and legal business practices. I know that's not the legal definition (for those attorneys in my group...lol). Zeekler has shut down their websites during this process so that they won't take in any more "new" money until they hear back from the attorney general. Zeek has also closed their offices for the time being. These are normal practices; and, Zeek closed their offices on their own...not as a demand set down from an outside agency. As point of reference, Duke Energy, the largest electric power holding company in the US & a fortune 250 company based in the state of NC recently went through this process; and, now they are fully operational. Feel free to go to their website to check this info on Duke Energy. Bottom line is...many companies go through this process; and, those that do often come out stronger with further validation. I hope this is the experience for Zeek and many of the others I spoke with late last evening & early this morning believe it will be as Zeek has received counsel from the best in the industry regarding their business practices, comp plan, etc. Keep an eye on zeekrewardsnews.com as they will update us via that site as more info is available; and, although I've given you everything I know at this time, feel free to contact me if you have further questions or just need to talk yourself off the ledge :) I will update you as I receive additional info. Have a great weekend! Bidify please don't be one of those competitors that spread rumors without KNOWING the results... This will turn me off of Bidify...

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Dan Hteszer August 18, 2012 at 1:37 am
Kevin is for hire. The person who solicited you for Zeekler is liable for the money they influenced you To put in Zeekler. Most of them just took money from there friends. It's really simple if your not past your 90 days you lost your $109 a month and $10,000! But your friend made all the money. Take him to court and sue him! If there is many of you join forces and sue togeAther. I hear a guys in California each made $250-$600k each Class action suits. Most attorney will take this contingent. You will win and they will pay you your money back. Call your credit card companies and contest the monthly charges . Lawsuits will form quickly and most people will settle and avoid court because it can and will bring legal charges after the civil..

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Lou Abbott August 18, 2012 at 1:57 am
Great analysis, Kevin. Thanks so much. Can I publish also at MLM-theWholeTruth.com? And yes . . . Everyone . . . can we strive to improve the industry by moving away from easy-money-deals to companies that only provide real value to their customers and distributors...with integrity in the marketing?

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Bob Giddens August 18, 2012 at 2:09 am
Very uninformed for an attorney to put in print. As least his disclaimer says it's all opinion. Mr. Thompson is unaware of how Zeek works and what precautions they have taken. They'll be open and humming in half a dozen days.

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Dave Manning August 18, 2012 at 2:38 am
thanks Kevin you saved me a big headache !

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